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  1. Chia Cha

    Watch this guy, he is saying all what is going to happen. (From text in link)

    … Among other generally agreed-upon concepts about which Thiel has expressed doubts: antitrust policies (he’s pro-monopoly), women’s suffrage (in a 2009 essay for the libertarian journal Cato Unbound, he noted that women have a troublesome tendency not to be libertarian), and the political system of the U.S. (in the same essay he noted, ‘I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible

    Monopoly – only chance for capitalism to survive
    Women – only way to keep them in line is to tell them they are inclined to not be free
    Freedom and democracy are not compatible – because democracy must go on workplace, and in proft sharing (one worker one vote)

    Line between us (public) and capitalists is getting thinner and thinner, I know how much, they know how much… They would need cultural war to win it also… Problem is Obama, he needs to be forgoten… But like I said, american captialists are having wise communist economy, they are keeping competition among corporations, heck that means that Peter Thiel is revolutionary communist among them… He is for monopoly… :)))
    So is it better for society to drive just Rolls Royce Phantoms (6 m limousinsens), or 25% of Audi 25% of A8, 25% of Lexus LS and 25% of Mercedes S (which are 4,8 m limousines),,, what is better for society in whole
    Society as awhole we mean by captialist standard: chance that capitalists are going to find new medications to prolong their life…
    Rich are our guinea pigs for testin longevity medication. HA HA

    1. Chia Cha

      I think that Rolls Royce Phantom is goal to be driven, but we just have to not look it one dimensionally, just involve time in this and you get it. From time to time, those 4 other cars should be driven because of innovation cycle. Then resulting in new Phantom.
      Nice to see our comrades trying to survive as class, they are good with our communist money, (all money in banks in USA is government money – definition of communist economy)…

      So for USA to evolve in to global cultural leader and to stop being social colony of Europe and cities of USA to stop being ultra technco villages on steorids without any police control.
      USA must have revolution of city class people (those whos material existance depend on other people)…
      Village class people (their material existance depends on nature, they can treat people how ever they like, it does not matter to them)

      1. Chia Cha

        Oh and do not worry, USA by adopting class equality by abolishing class differences (something even USSR was unable to do 100%), USA would be even stronger country.
        USSR was second world economy, larger then Japan even in 1989. No worry about deserved world primacy.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_largest_historical_GDP

        And such news would be history.
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terrance-heath/why-conservatives-are-wil_b_5206221.html

        1. Embrey

          Chia, I attempt to follow your points and metaphors but I continue to have a hard time grasping what you are doing. I understand that people like you and I have existed in different paradigms so it is hard to settle on the simplest things, such as what words mean to each of us.
          I see intelligence in your words but have such a hard time understanding how you come to your conclusions.
          Nevertheless, you are entertaining and I am glad you are here.

          1. Chia Cha

            Simply put capitalists are affriad of consumers ordering 50 millions of RR Phantoms. They are affraid of consumer and workers uniting them self on internet as consumers. Even they know profit for them would be bigger even because amount of discount for consumers would be bigger.
            Listen i would go work for some evil capitalist boss if I would earn in one year for one ferrari. They know it also. But then consmuers would start learning algorithms by them self. And with few alghoritms more ferrari would be free.

            Problem for them is that everyone organising their little own consumer chain is not solution. You think obamacare would work if every private enterpreprneur was allowed to set “competing” obamacare market place for them self. That would be joke. Everything then would be more costly. USA had growth of economy one quarter, 4,5% just from obamacare.

            And Peter Thiel is owner of paypal…

          2. Embrey

            Again, I simply do not understand with your statements. Neither do I accept premises you present as factual. To me, it appears you start from where you want things to end up and make up the way to get there, the ends justifying the means thing.

            I truly am attempting to think outside my paradigm but I cannot make heads or tails out of your reasoning.

          3. Chia Cha

            I am sure we can agree that when you go buy two cars as one entity in car saloon you can get discount because you are buying two, not one. Well now imagine you go to buy 50M of them, direcly in to factory while telling owner of factory, after 5 years we are also going to buy from you another 50M.
            What do you think, what price of that is going to be? That car is going to be more or less expensive per unit?

          4. Embrey

            Ok. I hear you. You assume morons can organize anything.
            Everything you suggest is theoretical.
            Answer this question specifically and carefully if you would: Who organizes this great market power of consumers?
            You do recognize that producers will not sell products under or at the cost of production. Right?

      2. Chia Cha

        Government set up that marketplace. Or if capitalists do not want that, military after military coup.

  2. Full Duke

    ” You think obamacare would work if every private enterpreprneur was allowed to set “competing” obamacare market place for them self.”

    So what you are saying is you think Obamacare is WORKING? In what way? Economically is costs more – from the drugs to the insurance plans. The CooPS have failed. During the incept of said ACA – the hard lobbying by Big Pharma got there “monopoly” and over a two year period – now that the government is on the hook for paying – most brand name drug prices skyrocketed 200-300%. According to the numbers available – less people are covered.

    How do you re-interpret the above in terms of “monopolies” and “RR Phantoms?”

    1. Embrey

      I often wonder where Chia resides.
      Do you think that he believes what he says or is just having fun?
      If what he said, for example about Obamacare, is his true belief, I am truly left speechless by his impression of what is occurring in America.

    2. Chia Cha

      I re-inerpret them in sense, that as long as private owner(s) of insurance companies and medical drug companies are allowed to put prices not ajusted to percentage of someones salary people would end up as looser. For instance in most of Europe you pay between 10 to 20% of your income to socialist (solidarity) medical fund. Richer pay more, those who have nothing, they pay nothing.
      Something similar is needed in USA.
      But we are talking here about most complex package of products, called medical insurances, while cars, houses, services, are much more simple and less regulated.
      Of course in Obamacare people are not allowed to say we will set our own insurance company where we are going to limit profit of owner, because we are owners, and we choose board of directors :))

  3. Furtive

    Charlie Rose interview Trump pal brilliant Tom Barrack, a Lebanese Catholic by heritage, shortly before Trump’s acceptance speech.
    Reveals Trump’s critical thinking & strategy (ad hominem labeling of opponents)

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-07-22/tom-barrack-on-donald-trump-charlie-rose

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